We had a terrible time when we went car shopping at Dick Hannah. As soon as we got there, the salesmen were running up to our car. We did a few test drives, and decided on a Mini-Van. At the time we had plenty of income coming in, both DH and I were working as Work Study Students, and going to school full time since we were laid off from our work. But they wouldn't finance us for $3K on the Van. Saying we didn't have income. We even had $5K to put down. This mind you is after an hour of playing the going-back and forth game. We thought it was absolutly silly, and went to Thomason in Oregon, the following week and had no problems.