the bartender is nice and the place is clean. there are some old timers that just chill out, but there are some dangerous young thugs that pack heat and sling dope. not a solid place. easy to get bad stuff here too. not as bad as chief's but some of the same clientelle... which has chased away the college crowd and ushered in the junkies.
Pros: clean
Cons: seedy crowd & crime
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