I'm a long time pie fan. Started eating Mack and Manco's as a kid visiting the shore in the 60's. I love going there, but it's more memories than really good pie. It's OK. Thin, crispy crust, more sauce than cheese. Tasty enough (and did I mention crispy?) but $17.00 for a large plain. By all means go there and try it, but there is better pie in OC.