Beware of Frederick's Appliance in Redmond! They have shady business practices. I will keep a very long story short - they mislead us during multiple conversations stating that we would be purchasing a new Thermador Dishwasher. What really happened is they sold us a returned used dishwasher that had been reconditioned and it did not even work. After wasting over 4 hours in purchasing, installing it, calling the sales clerk and the owner, eventually uninstalling it and returning it, we got our money back - but would have for anyone to have to deal with the same situation. If you go there - buyer beware! They will probably lie to you to get you to buy something, just make sure you know EXACTLY what you're getting.