The Good: HUGE beer mugs and a shaded outdoor eating/drinking area, picnic tables and large indoor benched seating- plenty of space for a big group, would/should be the perfect place for a party...which leads me to....The Bad: The entire staff at Loreley establishes right off the bat that THEY are doing YOU the ""service""- and not in a charming German/New York way. It's hard to explain in words with it not coming off as an exaggeration- but rude service is an understatement. It might be fine if you want to grab a drink with a couple of friends (but no more than 5- because they won't let you sit together...literally- we got there at 2pm, there were 5 open tables in the garden, and the staff blocked 3 friends from even coming outdoors because we knew each other...it sounds crazy, because it is- these were sober adults made to sit indoors and wait for us, who at that point we were sober too. I made a reservation for 20 a week in advance and asked for the ""party corner"", which is advertised on their website...but, I was told that I couldn't have it because it was for parties of 25 people or more (the day of the party it remained empty for the 8 hours we were there). And compared to everything else, this is almost not worth mentioning, but I had to put a $200 deposit down to reserve an indoor table for 20- which I've never heard of paying for a reservation before, so... that should have been a sign...The Ugly: Our party ended up having a god time, but I'd emphasize that this was IN SPITE of the atmosphere that the staff at Loreley creates. In a city like New York, if your looking for a good time, you can definitely do better...from my experience and the others that I've read, it makes me wonder how this place remains in business. The consensus from our group (which was well over 40 by the end of the night) was that no one would ever return. It's a shame and it makes you wonder, why a place that's SO uptight would bother to have a ""biergarten"". You can do better.
Pros: great mugs of beer, great space, should be fun novelty place
Cons: shockingly rude service (which trumps any ""pro"")- you may have to see it to believe it