Average is how I would describe it...They tend to get a good crowd because of their location (they attract both the tourists and the after-work crowd). It's pretty big, they have an upstairs and downstairs, as well as a portion that's called "Parris" and is supposed to be more like a club, I think. Beats me what the difference is exactly, since they're attached. It's worth a trip if you're in the area, might as well check it out. Rather like John Harvard's.