The other bad reviews should be taken down, since they were reviewed as far back as 2002. Back then I would agree with them, but not now. This is a completely different course and one of the best in the city of NY. Definitely the best greens. Real fairways and rough growing with fescue grass, as well as open fairways, make this a true links-style course. It's in great shape now (2011) and keeps getting better. Ignore those other ratings, they are WAY too old and out-dated.