Ryan, I'm sorry about your experience. After drivin' by for 13+ yrs, I'm a newcomer, since 3Jan2013 for the Fiesta Bowl. I hope you try Bert's again. Esp in this economy, value is important. It's 50-70% cheaper to drink at Bert's than, say, Mill Creek Town Center bars. Obviously, people come to a tavern to unwind, relax. Get silly. I'm like your wife. I make mistakes. Unrelated: I prefer a bus or the free shuttle (on Friday/Saturday nights, 11pm to 2am) w/in 5 mile radius; at times, cab. The crowd is super friendly. Welcoming. I'm happiest when I'm @Bert's.