this is the worst place to see an outdoor concert that i have ever been to. i have been following phish/greatful dead since the mid 90s and this place is the worst the security act like nazis, i see someone getting walked out of the inside of the venue in handcuffs every 20 minutes or so. if you dont have pavillion seating you will have a bad show, you will be forced to stand on a huge hill wich is the lawn here, your legs will hurt by the end of the night, if you choose to stand on top of the hill the sound is bad your better of listening to a cd at home. theres only one hotel anywhere near this place and it sells out really fast, otherwise you are driving 15-30 min to the nearest place to sleep/eat. theres no seen allowed outside the venue, no vending no hangin out basically no fun, good luck if you hungry after the show anyone vending will be fined $1000. unless it is absolutly vital for you to see a show here i would suggest saving your money for another venue where people get treated with respect by the staff...and where you can actually hear the show and not have to be standing on a ski slope the whole time.